Small windpower a scam ? Survey says SO

[lotek]

Honeywell set to market small wind through Ace Hardware in Aug. This looks to be the real deal! Producing power at the rim instead of the hub, at 2 miles an hr. Take a look http://www.earthtronics.com/honeywell.aspx

[Cariboocoot]

I may be hyper-cynical, but it sounds like a bunch of physics-defying bloody nonsense.
As usual.
And that "through Home Hardware" remark is eerily similar to a known scam.

[BB.]

A year ago--they where announcing the Earthtronics/Honeywell wind turbine.

Another Honeywell thread.

This looks like an updated version compared to what we saw a year ago... I am still not convinced that it can do what they claim--Your mileage may vary.

-Bill

[peterako]

Hi lotek,
This wind turbine is a clear scam if you read about wind generators you will understand it....
I will write a few there are more....

1. Roof top ??? every object in the wind makes noise, this just above sleeping room in a storm or strong wind.
2. blades are wrong way around. inthe center from the turbine the wind moves slower so you need more surface to harvest this energy, in the outside you need small surface because of the high speed.
3. low wind speed is low wind power.high wind speed is high power. you can not go around thise.
4. putting the generator on the outside meaing more space for magnets but you can not have the generator stronger than the energy produced , you will stall the generator. plus having extra weight in the outside will give big problems with centrical forces when the wind is changing direction.
5. there is no discription about any storm safety system??????
etc. etc.

[russ]

100% scam looking for suckers!

The low wind speed part is a laugher - when there is no power in the wind (such as at 2 mph) it makes no difference if the thing is turning or not. According to their document and in the wind class they choose 3 mph winds (which they are so proud of using) would contribute 14 watts per year.

No 3rd party testing so is the power information they supply accurate or just so much smoke - I would be looking for the fire!

[dwh]

Also, it's not a Honeywell product. It's Chinese and marketed under license using the Honeywell name (just like the Honeywell generators). This is not made by the same people who built those bulletproof round thermostats that we all grew up with.

[65DegN]

The way I see it, it makes no difference if the power generation occurrs at the blade tips or at the hub because placement of the point of generation will not change the HP generated by the blades.
Any turbine can be made to generate some power at low wind speeds by using a multiple blade design which increases the solidity of the blades and allows for low wind speed start up.
Then the alternator at the hub (or at the blade tips) would be designed to produce power at low RPMs.
I don't see anything new here.

[Cariboocoot]

You know, if we as a society did a better job of teaching science in high school (instead of whatever they do teach - butter sculpturing I guess) fewer people would be taken in by these scams.

Just sayin'.

[dwh]

Originally Posted by Cariboocoot

You know, if we as a society did a better job of teaching science in high school (instead of whatever they do teach - butter sculpturing I guess) fewer people would be taken in by these scams.

Just sayin'.

They teach TV watching, wage slaving, loan application filling out and propaganda swallowing.

Oh...and patriotism! Woo boy! Yay for us! We're the best!


"The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers." - Thomas Jefferson

[Cariboocoot]

Originally Posted by dwh

They teach TV watching, wage slaving, loan application filling out and propaganda swallowing.

Oh...and patriotism! Woo boy! Yay for us! We're the best!


"The man who reads nothing at all is better than educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers." - Thomas Jefferson

Ah! Now I understand!