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    Quote Originally Posted by Photowhit View Post
    I wonder if run in parallel if the lower voltage VOC panel won't 'regulate' the higher voltage panel, similarly to how they work for peak VMP? Run in parrallel the CC only 'sees' the pair at the lower voltage.
    No, because it's Voc; a panel being a big diode doesn't present any load to another panel. Put the two together in parallel and what you measure as Voc will be the higher amount.
    Four 175 Watt panels, OB MX60, 232 Amp hrs, OB 3524, Honda eu2000.

    Ohm's Law: Amps = Volts / Ohms
    Power Formula: Watts = Volts * Amps

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    so I just checked the difference between the 2 panels...

    panel 1:
    VOC: 78 volts
    VMAX: 61 volts

    panel 2:
    VOC: 61 volts
    VMAX: 47 volts

    definitely greater than 10% difference.... and then I think I was planning on stringing together a bunch of thin film metal cells... I have like 40 units of flexible 3.5v sheet that I would probably make into panel 3 which maybe could average between panel 1 and 2???

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    Default Re: Panel volts exceeding MPPT controller

    If it is "cheap"--Why not try it... You saw a 2x different in panels could result in a 25% reduction in output (again, don't know which peak the controller will pick).

    -Bill
    20x BP 4175B panels (replacement) + Xantrex GT 3.3 inverter for 3kW Grid Tied system + Honda eu2000i Inverter/Generator for emergency backup.

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    Default Re: Panel volts exceeding MPPT controller

    Quote Originally Posted by BB. View Post
    If it is "cheap"--Why not try it... You saw a 2x different in panels could result in a 25% reduction in output (again, don't know which peak the controller will pick).

    -Bill
    There is a very good chance that the controller will pick the wrong one. Since Vmp of one panel is close to and possibly higher than Voc of the other, as the CC starts to draw more and more current seeking the MPP, it will first find the MPP of the single higher voltage panel and will have no idea that it will be able to double the current by pulling the voltage down lower.
    If there is an overlap, with Vmp of the higher voltage panel below Voc of the second panel, ,the CC should see only one peak, somewhere above the Vmp of the second panel.

    On the other hand, if the CC tries to sample the voltage current profile over a wider range before zeroing in, it still may find the true maximum even with the first situation.
    Sunny Boy 3000US, 18 x BP Solar 175b panels, installed 2009.

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    I never spend money on anything... no tv, cellphone, I do my own haircuts, I don't buy pretty much anything but tools. so I have the funds to throw away on something like this, but as is everything else, it's always hard to justify haha

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    I just reread this thread. Cariboocoot nailed it in the first response (post #2). For less than you spend trying to make your panels work, you could buy a properly matched panel and controller and generate more power. --vtMaps
    4 x 235w Samsung, Outback fm60 & vfx3524 & mate, Midnite E-panel, four Interstate L16, Trimetric monitor, Honda eu2000

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