Bedini Generator as free energy

[SolaRevolution]

Do you have any actual examples of that?

Have you ever been asked to sign a nondisclosure agreement so you can participate in Beta testing?

Have you ever heard about the shenaniagans surrounding the NiMH battery for the EV1?

This video has interviews with the inventor expressing his disappointment of how things were handled after he sold controlling share to GM. GM did not initially use the NiMH and instead used a inferior battery pack. After the NiMH was implemented and found to be a success GM sold controlling interest to Chevron-Texaco. Why would they buy it and then not produce it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq2D_Ts5B5g

The video also gets into some debatable conspiracy theories regarding oil and auto companies protecting their interests.
If you want to dismiss conspiracy theories because you simply believe business interests would never do such a thing note that it is documented that GM and other companies were convicted in the "National Lines Conspiracy" of buying control of and then dismantling streetcar and electric train services in 45 US cities.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General...car_conspiracy

I can't claim any examples of technological suppression regarding free energy but I also cannot dismiss the possibility.

I'm also not claiming that we will find a way to produce something from nothing, but imagine if you had never heard of photovoltaics, or photons for that matter, and someone told you they could get electricity from the sun.

It's just foolish to think that we have discovered it all. Can you really believe that we are at the zenith of our understanding?

One thing that comes to mind for me is how the Earth has a dynamic magnetic field around it which we can actually measure and observe yet we do not harvest any energy from it even though it actually can move things in our world. Sure the force which turns a compass needle is minute but who has ever been knocked over by a photon?

[nsaspook]

You only get older, time only goes forward and there is no free lunch. What (some) people seem to forget/ignore with energy is that it's not "work". "work" is produced when energy moves from one level to the next up or down. There is a bit of truth that energy is everywhere but it's useless because it requires more energy than that background energy to convert it to "work".

[Cariboocoot]

Being able to harvest energy that is there, such as from the Earth's magnetic field, is not the same as creating energy out of thin air. You cannot put 'X' Watts in and get '1.5X' Watts out. Absolutely every application that harvests, stores, converts, or uses energy to do work has losses. No matter what type of energy is involved. There is absolutely no proof anywhere that this is not so, and an abundance of evidence that says it is.

Remember; energy, like matter, is never created or destroyed. It just changes state. It may exist as potential energy or kinetic energy or heat energy or light energy, but it has to be there in order for us to make use of it. How efficiently we gather and use it is the only thing we can improve on.

[Joe_B]

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[SolaRevolution]

Being able to harvest energy that is there, such as from the Earth's magnetic field, is not the same as creating energy out of thin air..

My point is that there are still natural phenomena which most of us currently see as "thin air".

There are still things which are not widely understood which are being actively studied and discovered. Unfortunately a lot of research which is done with private funding is protected from the public domain. With many technologies the only spokespersons who are openly sharing information are academics in public forums or people who are easy to dismiss as activist nut-jobs because they want to make it available to the public domain.

How strong is our understanding of, or ability to make use of:
-The Coriolis effect
-Toroidial vortices
-Spintronics (a fairly new study of a quantum variable which affects all matter)
-global and particle magnetic fields

All of these phenomena are present in our lives whether we are utilizing them or not. Look into them and then try to say we have all of the answers.

Even when everyone believed it to be so, the Earth was not flat.

[Cariboocoot]

I never said we have all the answers. Certainly I've never said I have all the answers.

But neither do I disregard the answers we do have in favour of pipe dreams.

Gone are the days when someone could putter in their workshop and accidentally stumble upon the next big breakthrough in any field. Knowledge is built on knowledge. The understanding of the very things you just mentioned can only be had with a great deal of background learning. Including physics.

Newton's Laws quite often are the bucket of cold water dashed on daydreamers.

Or as Josh Billings said: "The problem ain't the folks that don't know anything; it's the ones what know so many things that ain't so!"

[Polaraco]

The first 5 reasons that come to mind for why this doesn't exist:
1. The second law of thermodynamics
2. If it did exist, it would be the greatest invention in the history of the human race. Bigger than the wheel. Even the "money men" would be hard pressed to suppress it. They didn't seem to do so well suppressing solar power.
3. There are hundreds of thousands of companies that would make a fortune from this machine - many more than the few who would profit from it remaining secret.
4. If it were that easy to make, why are there only a handful of examples? Forget mainstream adoption, I'd at least expect to see 1000 people with a working machine running their homes.
5. The second law of thermodynamics

Big Biz is trying to suppress Solar and wind because it doesn't sell oil or gas. The strange thing is the government has been supporting it, sort of, but most of the panels and related devices are made off shore. There are very few who have made a real good panel in the US. There's no funding for us unless you know someone or made a large contribution to some load in DC. Once again Asia is ahead of us in this feild. Their governments put money into their companies so they can take our money.

Thank you Washington. . . Again

[SolaRevolution]

“Everything that can be invented has been invented.”

Attributed to Charles H. Duell, the Commissioner at U.S. Office of Patents in 1889

[Polaraco]

If anyone is thinking a higher voltage out compared to the input voltage. I ask you to re read Windsuns statement again and again until you understand it.
All step up transformers for obvious reasons produce higher output voltage than the input voltage. BUT THE CURRENT DECREASES. There is no gain.
The reverse for step down transformers. 120v 1amp input will give in theory 12v and 10a output. there is no loss because the output voltage is 10% of the input voltage.

A Watt is a Watt or a Watt and a Watt. Ohms law covers what you said. Transformers are inefficient. Even electronic regulators are inefficient. You loose a Minimum of 10% stepping up or down.

[Polaraco]

Or as Josh Billings said: "The problem ain't the folks that don't know anything; it's the ones what know so many things that ain't so!"

EXCELLENT!
Boy! That is the truth for sure. And there's plenty of the "Aint so's" out there. LOL