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icarus
December 15th, 2007, 22:29 PST
I was doing a bit of research to back up an argument and cam across this web site. http://www.batteryfaq.org/. It is very well laid out and loaded with good information about many kinds and styles of batteries. It goes along well with the NAWS battery information page.
Icarus
crewzer
December 16th, 2007, 5:27 PST
Tony,
Yeah, Bill Darden has done a great job with that site. I've had it bookmarked for years; now you know the source of some of my info! One feature that I really like is that Bill regularly updates the site with new information.
Regards,
Jim / crewzer
icarus
December 16th, 2007, 11:03 PST
Jim,
Both those links should be required reading for anyone who owns a battery. There was one item I questioned him on, and am awaiting a reply. He suggest that you should avoid large % drawdowns of deepcycle batteries (obvious to most of us), but he further goes on to suggest that you should also avoid small ~10% drawdowns as well. I have always tried to run my system with a drawdown of ~10% and then recharge most every day, and generator charge if I get close to 20%. Question is, am I hurting my batteries (4 L16's) by running them this way? I can't really run them down more than 10% without adding some unneeded load(s). Seems kinda silly.
Your (or anyone else's) opinion would be appreciated.
Once again for all your help on so many subjects,
Tony
crewzer
December 16th, 2007, 14:22 PST
Tony,
I saw that comment, but I’ve not seen it anywhere else. I’m not aware of any chemical or physical reason for avoiding discharges of less than 10%. In fact, Trojan says: “Shallow discharges will result in a longer battery life.”
My outdoor hybrid marine/deep-cycle battery may be a good anecdotal example. After two years of RV service, my Interstate SRM-27 spent the last 4-1/2 years powering my outdoor LED lights, where the typical daily discharge ranges from ~2-1/2% to ~5%. It’s finally failing, but 6-1/2 years of outdoor service from this type of battery with maintenance limited to PWM charging and adding water (no EQ’ing), that’s not bad at all.
However, recharging from a <10% discharge appears to be very inefficient. Accordingly, the economically efficient discharge range is ~15% to 25%.
I’ll be curious about the response to your inquiry.
Regards,
Jim / crewzer
icarus
December 16th, 2007, 15:04 PST
Jim,
I too have read on the Trojan site about cycles and depth of discharge. I know of no other technical reason that will damage or short live the battery.
On the other hand, I understand that the last ~10% is the least efficient % to get in. On the other hand it doesn't seem to make any sense to run down to 80% with a unneeded load, when the panels fill it every day from 90%.
I have gone ~10 years on 6 l-16s 2 of them have failed, but the remaining 4 seem to be going strong, so I guess 1 in year 9 and the second in year 10 so in spite of myself, I must have been doing something right. (Didn't even equalize them until year 8 because I didn't know what that was!)
Icarus
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